Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel

United's players look disconsolate after going a goal down at Scunthorpe

United's players look disconsolate after going a goal down at Scunthorpe

First published in Sport Banbury Cake: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Reporter covering Oxford United. Follow us on twitter: @oxfordmailoufc. Call me on 01865 425458

GARY Waddock ref-used to give up on Oxford United reaching the play-offs, but a 1-0 defeat at Scunthorpe United left them needing a miracle.

With York City and Southend United winning their Easter Monday games, the U’s are five points adrift of the top seven with only two games remaining against Accrington and Northampton.

Matt Sparrow’s 15th-minute strike was the difference, but without another excellent display from goalkeeper Ryan Clarke, the margin of victory could have been worse.

With the exception of a glorious chance fired wide by Alfie Potter just after falling behind, United’s best attacking spell came in second-half stoppage time.

Waddock admitted it was a tall order to get something out of the campaign now and was bitterly disappointed to be on the losing side for the fifth time in his six games in charge.

“It’s still there mathematically, (but) it gets harder and harder because we have only got the two games left,” the head coach said.

“It’s another defeat, which I’m not happy with.

“We had a fantastic chance once they scored with Alfie, and another one at the end with Beano (James Constable).

“I don’t like this feeling, it’s happened too often.”

Waddock was particularly irritated with the visitors’ first-half display, which left them chasing the game.

He said: “You want to give yourselves a platform to build on.

“We’re away from home and have come up against a side on a fantastic run and their confidence is high.

“The goal we conceded was far too easy and that summed up for me how we have been in the back-end of the season – that’s not acceptable.”

Jake Wright felt there were improvements after the break, but acknowledged it was too little, too late.

The United skipper said: “I think the performance in the second half was good.

“We’re not going to give up, but it’s a little bit too late, we should have been like that in the last five or six games.

“If we had done that, I’m sure we would have had a lot more points than we have now.

“We’ve come to a team that’s 28 games unbeaten and they have done that because they work hard, stick together and stick to their game plan.

“In the second half we were a lot better, but we can’t keep giving rubbish goals away and try to get back in the game.”

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9:41am Tue 22 Apr 14

BigAlBiker says...

Waddock, you have been sold a pup, this lot are slow and lethargic.

Keep Clarke, Mullins, Wright, and dump the rest along with Lewis and Melville.

Than, and only then you might have a chance.
Waddock, you have been sold a pup, this lot are slow and lethargic. Keep Clarke, Mullins, Wright, and dump the rest along with Lewis and Melville. Than, and only then you might have a chance. BigAlBiker
  • Score: -6

9:50am Tue 22 Apr 14

oldun says...

Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two
Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two oldun
  • Score: 0

10:31am Tue 22 Apr 14

Oxokuba says...

Waddock doesn't have a towel to throw in - 4 defeats in 5 games 0 goals scored in 4 games the play offs have gone. Waddock needs to drop the wilder clichés and plan for next season presumably with some resources to improve what has become a really dire squad. York deserve the last play off spot because they've hit form and have a tremendous defensive record. Our form over last third of season has got us exactly what we deserved again.

The only winners again are the remarkable support this club gets despite consistent failure on the pitch. I do wonder how much longer this will last under Lenagan's ultra safe tenure.
Waddock doesn't have a towel to throw in - 4 defeats in 5 games 0 goals scored in 4 games the play offs have gone. Waddock needs to drop the wilder clichés and plan for next season presumably with some resources to improve what has become a really dire squad. York deserve the last play off spot because they've hit form and have a tremendous defensive record. Our form over last third of season has got us exactly what we deserved again. The only winners again are the remarkable support this club gets despite consistent failure on the pitch. I do wonder how much longer this will last under Lenagan's ultra safe tenure. Oxokuba
  • Score: 8

10:48am Tue 22 Apr 14

oldun says...

Oxokuba wrote:
Waddock doesn't have a towel to throw in - 4 defeats in 5 games 0 goals scored in 4 games the play offs have gone. Waddock needs to drop the wilder clichés and plan for next season presumably with some resources to improve what has become a really dire squad. York deserve the last play off spot because they've hit form and have a tremendous defensive record. Our form over last third of season has got us exactly what we deserved again.

The only winners again are the remarkable support this club gets despite consistent failure on the pitch. I do wonder how much longer this will last under Lenagan's ultra safe tenure.
Crowds are massively down on two seasons ago
[quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: Waddock doesn't have a towel to throw in - 4 defeats in 5 games 0 goals scored in 4 games the play offs have gone. Waddock needs to drop the wilder clichés and plan for next season presumably with some resources to improve what has become a really dire squad. York deserve the last play off spot because they've hit form and have a tremendous defensive record. Our form over last third of season has got us exactly what we deserved again. The only winners again are the remarkable support this club gets despite consistent failure on the pitch. I do wonder how much longer this will last under Lenagan's ultra safe tenure.[/p][/quote]Crowds are massively down on two seasons ago oldun
  • Score: 10

1:18pm Tue 22 Apr 14

London_Ox says...

The key question that needs to be asked is why the players haven't responded to a new manager.. In the vast majority of cases, a change of manager prove to be a much needed shot in the arm and performance levels increase.. Missing out on promotion and the playoffs is a dire effort and a massive disappointment considering the position we are in.. We simply imploded.. Not good enough.. More worryingly, losing the last five or six is relegation form.. We need to be brave in the summer and get rid of the vast majority of players as they are not up to it.. Clarke & Mullins are the only ones up to playing at a higher level.. Sentiment needs to put to one side and we need to get stronger minded player with more desire and who are consistent in quality. Time to get the blankerty blank cheque out IL and invest wisely and astutely like Scunny have.. they are great role models on how it should be done..
The key question that needs to be asked is why the players haven't responded to a new manager.. In the vast majority of cases, a change of manager prove to be a much needed shot in the arm and performance levels increase.. Missing out on promotion and the playoffs is a dire effort and a massive disappointment considering the position we are in.. We simply imploded.. Not good enough.. More worryingly, losing the last five or six is relegation form.. We need to be brave in the summer and get rid of the vast majority of players as they are not up to it.. Clarke & Mullins are the only ones up to playing at a higher level.. Sentiment needs to put to one side and we need to get stronger minded player with more desire and who are consistent in quality. Time to get the blankerty blank cheque out IL and invest wisely and astutely like Scunny have.. they are great role models on how it should be done.. London_Ox
  • Score: 13

3:19pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Richard Wickson says...

As London Ox rightly says our recent form is relegation form. Look back since Wilder went and our form clearly would have left us in trouble had we not been so well placed when he jumped from a ship he knew would sink. All season we haven't played well apart from a handful of games, we got away with it away from home because we were defensively secure and ground out some pretty dour wins, at home we were just poor, never looking like we deserved to be in the top half let alone the promotion places, we stayed there because the rest of the division were equally poor, but when the other top teams strengthened we stood still. I am well aware we had many key injuries despite the rugby league fitness methods introduced, that in itself proves you can't manage the two different types of player the same way. The club has been poorly run and poorly managed again this season, the chairman probably made the correct decision in handing Wilder only a one year contract renewal but then Wilder put his family first and fled into Northamptonshire open arms where his first quote was how good it felt to work for a good footballing chairman, an obvious knock at Lenagan. He, Lenagan, is obviously a good business man but is proving to be a poor Football man. Personally speaking I think he should look for a buyer quickly and go back to Rugby at His real love, Wigan. The two don't mix and being boss of one is a full time job, that's if you intend to do a proper job. He should go and take Lewis, Melville and Waddock with him. We need new blood on the pitch, in the boardroom and on the training ground. The missing fans won't return until things improve and we have a team that plays football again, we need to go back to old days of Arthur Turner when, win lose or draw we played football and didn't just hack it, the past ten years have just been a downward spiral. The club even made coming out of the Conference hard work because we couldn't beat the sides that played football, I know we aren't Premier League and I personally don't want to watch highly paid divas playing, I want an honest, tactically aware team that plays with pace and a bit of fun, a team that might lose as many as they win but play attractive, fun to watch football. A lot of our opponents do it and we find it hard to score against them and prevent them scoring against us so surely that shows it's what we need here if bums are to be put on seats. Get real OU and let's see changes quickly, it probably will cost less than some of these overpaid and over hyped players wearing our shirts at present costs and the missing fans will return. On present perfomances I might just be an away regular but a home absentee unless things change, like others I think Oxford City might be a better option. Although I am OU thru and thru I am getting fed up with so much of the kick and dawdle, we never do well against pace and style so surely it's what we need to adopt here, many of the clubs doing it now have smaller resources than we do so it's not impossible, we also need to get the Millstone that is the Kassam Stadium off the clubs back, it's too expensive and just a cold concrete monstrosity, it's not a welcoming ground, it's not a real home to the club, it's just an expense that's draining the life out of the football club and has done for far too long! Change now and the missing fans will return, stand still and gates will dwindle further still! It's a no brainier to use the modern vernacular.
As London Ox rightly says our recent form is relegation form. Look back since Wilder went and our form clearly would have left us in trouble had we not been so well placed when he jumped from a ship he knew would sink. All season we haven't played well apart from a handful of games, we got away with it away from home because we were defensively secure and ground out some pretty dour wins, at home we were just poor, never looking like we deserved to be in the top half let alone the promotion places, we stayed there because the rest of the division were equally poor, but when the other top teams strengthened we stood still. I am well aware we had many key injuries despite the rugby league fitness methods introduced, that in itself proves you can't manage the two different types of player the same way. The club has been poorly run and poorly managed again this season, the chairman probably made the correct decision in handing Wilder only a one year contract renewal but then Wilder put his family first and fled into Northamptonshire open arms where his first quote was how good it felt to work for a good footballing chairman, an obvious knock at Lenagan. He, Lenagan, is obviously a good business man but is proving to be a poor Football man. Personally speaking I think he should look for a buyer quickly and go back to Rugby at His real love, Wigan. The two don't mix and being boss of one is a full time job, that's if you intend to do a proper job. He should go and take Lewis, Melville and Waddock with him. We need new blood on the pitch, in the boardroom and on the training ground. The missing fans won't return until things improve and we have a team that plays football again, we need to go back to old days of Arthur Turner when, win lose or draw we played football and didn't just hack it, the past ten years have just been a downward spiral. The club even made coming out of the Conference hard work because we couldn't beat the sides that played football, I know we aren't Premier League and I personally don't want to watch highly paid divas playing, I want an honest, tactically aware team that plays with pace and a bit of fun, a team that might lose as many as they win but play attractive, fun to watch football. A lot of our opponents do it and we find it hard to score against them and prevent them scoring against us so surely that shows it's what we need here if bums are to be put on seats. Get real OU and let's see changes quickly, it probably will cost less than some of these overpaid and over hyped players wearing our shirts at present costs and the missing fans will return. On present perfomances I might just be an away regular but a home absentee unless things change, like others I think Oxford City might be a better option. Although I am OU thru and thru I am getting fed up with so much of the kick and dawdle, we never do well against pace and style so surely it's what we need to adopt here, many of the clubs doing it now have smaller resources than we do so it's not impossible, we also need to get the Millstone that is the Kassam Stadium off the clubs back, it's too expensive and just a cold concrete monstrosity, it's not a welcoming ground, it's not a real home to the club, it's just an expense that's draining the life out of the football club and has done for far too long! Change now and the missing fans will return, stand still and gates will dwindle further still! It's a no brainier to use the modern vernacular. Richard Wickson
  • Score: 9

3:46pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Fruit_Bat says...

oldun wrote:
Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two
Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel.

Our record against the top 7 - Won 1, Drawn 3, Lost 10 - sadly sums up this season.
Promotion from here would require at least 4 wins from 5 games (!!??!!).
Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Can't imagine a stampede for season tickets unless you do.
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two[/p][/quote]Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel. Our record against the top 7 - Won 1, Drawn 3, Lost 10 - sadly sums up this season. Promotion from here would require at least 4 wins from 5 games (!!??!!). Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Can't imagine a stampede for season tickets unless you do. Fruit_Bat
  • Score: 12

4:08pm Tue 22 Apr 14

onthebench says...

Having a go at the Chairman is so wrong. Quite a few people have now said the Chairman needs to put his hands into his pocket! He has lent the club over £6 Million INTEREST FREE! The guy is either crazy, or he really does have the best interests of the club at heart. I firmly believe the latter. Saying he should go back to rugby is ludicrous and so naive. I guess what everyone wants is someone with more sense than money, but those people always want a Premier League club. Nearly every club in the FL is run at a loss as ours is. However, hardly any have an owner who let's his financial commitments do the talking. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try spending more money than they earn for a while and sit back and see how long it is until the Bank gives you a call! It is going to be a struggle for Waddock because he will not be given a much bigger playing budget than he has now - and quite rightly so, I don't want to be supporting another Portsmouth or Plymouth! However, he is a good Manager I am convinced. Much of the squad have played their way OUT of a contract and we will see many changes in the close season. Next season we will probably have a midfield which is something we have lacked from the very first game of this one. Just don't go expecting a big splash out on new signings, Lenagan is an exceptionally good Chairman, but he is not Father Christmas and he is also certainly no fool. If anyone wants to really help the club in the best way they can, buy a season ticket. That's what I am going to do ( as usual!).
Having a go at the Chairman is so wrong. Quite a few people have now said the Chairman needs to put his hands into his pocket! He has lent the club over £6 Million INTEREST FREE! The guy is either crazy, or he really does have the best interests of the club at heart. I firmly believe the latter. Saying he should go back to rugby is ludicrous and so naive. I guess what everyone wants is someone with more sense than money, but those people always want a Premier League club. Nearly every club in the FL is run at a loss as ours is. However, hardly any have an owner who let's his financial commitments do the talking. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try spending more money than they earn for a while and sit back and see how long it is until the Bank gives you a call! It is going to be a struggle for Waddock because he will not be given a much bigger playing budget than he has now - and quite rightly so, I don't want to be supporting another Portsmouth or Plymouth! However, he is a good Manager I am convinced. Much of the squad have played their way OUT of a contract and we will see many changes in the close season. Next season we will probably have a midfield which is something we have lacked from the very first game of this one. Just don't go expecting a big splash out on new signings, Lenagan is an exceptionally good Chairman, but he is not Father Christmas and he is also certainly no fool. If anyone wants to really help the club in the best way they can, buy a season ticket. That's what I am going to do ( as usual!). onthebench
  • Score: 8

4:37pm Tue 22 Apr 14

London_Ox says...

onthebench wrote:
Having a go at the Chairman is so wrong. Quite a few people have now said the Chairman needs to put his hands into his pocket! He has lent the club over £6 Million INTEREST FREE! The guy is either crazy, or he really does have the best interests of the club at heart. I firmly believe the latter. Saying he should go back to rugby is ludicrous and so naive. I guess what everyone wants is someone with more sense than money, but those people always want a Premier League club. Nearly every club in the FL is run at a loss as ours is. However, hardly any have an owner who let's his financial commitments do the talking. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try spending more money than they earn for a while and sit back and see how long it is until the Bank gives you a call! It is going to be a struggle for Waddock because he will not be given a much bigger playing budget than he has now - and quite rightly so, I don't want to be supporting another Portsmouth or Plymouth! However, he is a good Manager I am convinced. Much of the squad have played their way OUT of a contract and we will see many changes in the close season. Next season we will probably have a midfield which is something we have lacked from the very first game of this one. Just don't go expecting a big splash out on new signings, Lenagan is an exceptionally good Chairman, but he is not Father Christmas and he is also certainly no fool. If anyone wants to really help the club in the best way they can, buy a season ticket. That's what I am going to do ( as usual!).
Onthebench, I think the vast majority of us are appreciative ofwhat IL has done for the club but I think also the vast majority belief he has taken us as far as he can with the funds he is prepared to put into the club. It's not a criticism, its just the way it looks. It doesnt really matter whether we went up or not this season, it's whether we would have invested in the new season to give ourselves a fair chance of competing in Div 1.

At the moment, i feel like a lot of businesses in the UK which are not going anywhere but still being funded by the banks, we are a zoombie club whereby cash is just being ploughed in to keep us afloat and we are going to be the proverbial Div 2 also rans.. I just feel that with the greatest respect, we do need to invest money in the right players to get us up or we get a manager who has a knack of getting promotion from freebies or youth but as we know that will take years to develop. Once you are in Div 1, you MUST invest on playing staff.. I team like Yeovil managed it one year without doing so but look what happened this season, straight back down.
[quote][p][bold]onthebench[/bold] wrote: Having a go at the Chairman is so wrong. Quite a few people have now said the Chairman needs to put his hands into his pocket! He has lent the club over £6 Million INTEREST FREE! The guy is either crazy, or he really does have the best interests of the club at heart. I firmly believe the latter. Saying he should go back to rugby is ludicrous and so naive. I guess what everyone wants is someone with more sense than money, but those people always want a Premier League club. Nearly every club in the FL is run at a loss as ours is. However, hardly any have an owner who let's his financial commitments do the talking. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try spending more money than they earn for a while and sit back and see how long it is until the Bank gives you a call! It is going to be a struggle for Waddock because he will not be given a much bigger playing budget than he has now - and quite rightly so, I don't want to be supporting another Portsmouth or Plymouth! However, he is a good Manager I am convinced. Much of the squad have played their way OUT of a contract and we will see many changes in the close season. Next season we will probably have a midfield which is something we have lacked from the very first game of this one. Just don't go expecting a big splash out on new signings, Lenagan is an exceptionally good Chairman, but he is not Father Christmas and he is also certainly no fool. If anyone wants to really help the club in the best way they can, buy a season ticket. That's what I am going to do ( as usual!).[/p][/quote]Onthebench, I think the vast majority of us are appreciative ofwhat IL has done for the club but I think also the vast majority belief he has taken us as far as he can with the funds he is prepared to put into the club. It's not a criticism, its just the way it looks. It doesnt really matter whether we went up or not this season, it's whether we would have invested in the new season to give ourselves a fair chance of competing in Div 1. At the moment, i feel like a lot of businesses in the UK which are not going anywhere but still being funded by the banks, we are a zoombie club whereby cash is just being ploughed in to keep us afloat and we are going to be the proverbial Div 2 also rans.. I just feel that with the greatest respect, we do need to invest money in the right players to get us up or we get a manager who has a knack of getting promotion from freebies or youth but as we know that will take years to develop. Once you are in Div 1, you MUST invest on playing staff.. I team like Yeovil managed it one year without doing so but look what happened this season, straight back down. London_Ox
  • Score: 4

4:53pm Tue 22 Apr 14

oldun says...

Fruit_Bat wrote:
oldun wrote:
Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two
Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel.

Our record against the top 7 - Won 1, Drawn 3, Lost 10 - sadly sums up this season.
Promotion from here would require at least 4 wins from 5 games (!!??!!).
Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Can't imagine a stampede for season tickets unless you do.
"Time to wake up and smell the coffee" My comment "very much depending on York losing their last two" was (obviously?) about what was ALSO needed merely to reach the playoffs . Of course, it is highly unlikely that all 4 results will come off. Yep, I am happy to smell the coffee. I do expect United to win their last two matches. The fat lady has not sung - obviously highly surprising results like Sunderland's recent win at Stamford Bridge do happen. I wouldn't take 30-1 against United winning at Wembley this year but I would put on £20 if offered 50-1 - wouldn't you? We could be in League One next season - but I don't expect u to be.
[quote][p][bold]Fruit_Bat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two[/p][/quote]Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel. Our record against the top 7 - Won 1, Drawn 3, Lost 10 - sadly sums up this season. Promotion from here would require at least 4 wins from 5 games (!!??!!). Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Can't imagine a stampede for season tickets unless you do.[/p][/quote]"Time to wake up and smell the coffee" My comment "very much depending on York losing their last two" was (obviously?) about what was ALSO needed merely to reach the playoffs . Of course, it is highly unlikely that all 4 results will come off. Yep, I am happy to smell the coffee. I do expect United to win their last two matches. The fat lady has not sung - obviously highly surprising results like Sunderland's recent win at Stamford Bridge do happen. I wouldn't take 30-1 against United winning at Wembley this year but I would put on £20 if offered 50-1 - wouldn't you? We could be in League One next season - but I don't expect u to be. oldun
  • Score: 0

4:59pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Richard Wickson says...

onthebench wrote:
Having a go at the Chairman is so wrong. Quite a few people have now said the Chairman needs to put his hands into his pocket! He has lent the club over £6 Million INTEREST FREE! The guy is either crazy, or he really does have the best interests of the club at heart. I firmly believe the latter. Saying he should go back to rugby is ludicrous and so naive. I guess what everyone wants is someone with more sense than money, but those people always want a Premier League club. Nearly every club in the FL is run at a loss as ours is. However, hardly any have an owner who let's his financial commitments do the talking. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try spending more money than they earn for a while and sit back and see how long it is until the Bank gives you a call! It is going to be a struggle for Waddock because he will not be given a much bigger playing budget than he has now - and quite rightly so, I don't want to be supporting another Portsmouth or Plymouth! However, he is a good Manager I am convinced. Much of the squad have played their way OUT of a contract and we will see many changes in the close season. Next season we will probably have a midfield which is something we have lacked from the very first game of this one. Just don't go expecting a big splash out on new signings, Lenagan is an exceptionally good Chairman, but he is not Father Christmas and he is also certainly no fool. If anyone wants to really help the club in the best way they can, buy a season ticket. That's what I am going to do ( as usual!).
I guess you are having a go at. E and you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I don't want to support a premier league team unless by some miracle OU get their. And I fully realise IL has loaned the club £6 million but truth is it hasn't helped the club improve in a football playing sense, if anything he has kept us going with Managers who haven't developed the playing side well enough. It's an easy thing to work out, we can't beat playing sides because we are not a playing side, we (still) can't defend set pieces well enough or exploit enough of our own set pieces and attacks. I wouldn't watch anyone else and am a proper fan so I will always say it as I see it, because I care about the club, I worry that the "stay away" fans will cost the club dear but I know enough of them to realise that it's the style of football we play that keeps them away. Just look at how many turned up at Wembley to see the club get back into the football league and you realise that 5000 is a poor gate, I know most of the 33,000 won't go but gates of 8000 plus should be the minimum for OU. As regards your comment on the season ticket, I live in Cheshire so do a 320 mile round trip for home games and attend regularly and despite my protestations I know I will continue to. I am also aware that IL has bankrolled the club reasonably well but think the way the money has been spent, most of it going to Kassam, hasn't been well thought out. Look at the clubs that are reasonably successful and they take more of their chances and attack with more pace and vigour which in itself entertains more, yes you won't neccesarily win all your games but you win more than you lose so be reasonably successful and keep bums on seats. Unfortunately IL probably can't provide a new stadium and personally I don't want us to stay at the Kassam, we don't need a stadium as big but something that will accommodate 9 to 10 thousand will suffice, whilst he is bankrolling FK he isn't bankrolling the club adequately, it's a fact. He is also the first to admit that Wigan are his first love he has been very successful there, he's also been very successful as a business man but football is a very different business and if you look around the clubs that don't own their grounds are among the least successful partly because when the going gets tough they don't have the money to strengthen to push on. With the squad we have had this season we have probably over achieved but the fans haven't been entertained anywhere near enough. A younger, cheaper, fitter squad that can take the game to the opposition is what we need and if the club own the stadium they play in then it wouldn't cost as much as IL is spending per season to do it, yes we might stay in Division 4 a few years more but so be it, a successful team in this Division is better than an unsuccessful team in the one above and we would have been back down pretty quick had we gone up. Owning where we play is fundamental to the future success of this club, continue to line Kassam's pockets and we won't be successful on the pitch!
[quote][p][bold]onthebench[/bold] wrote: Having a go at the Chairman is so wrong. Quite a few people have now said the Chairman needs to put his hands into his pocket! He has lent the club over £6 Million INTEREST FREE! The guy is either crazy, or he really does have the best interests of the club at heart. I firmly believe the latter. Saying he should go back to rugby is ludicrous and so naive. I guess what everyone wants is someone with more sense than money, but those people always want a Premier League club. Nearly every club in the FL is run at a loss as ours is. However, hardly any have an owner who let's his financial commitments do the talking. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try spending more money than they earn for a while and sit back and see how long it is until the Bank gives you a call! It is going to be a struggle for Waddock because he will not be given a much bigger playing budget than he has now - and quite rightly so, I don't want to be supporting another Portsmouth or Plymouth! However, he is a good Manager I am convinced. Much of the squad have played their way OUT of a contract and we will see many changes in the close season. Next season we will probably have a midfield which is something we have lacked from the very first game of this one. Just don't go expecting a big splash out on new signings, Lenagan is an exceptionally good Chairman, but he is not Father Christmas and he is also certainly no fool. If anyone wants to really help the club in the best way they can, buy a season ticket. That's what I am going to do ( as usual!).[/p][/quote]I guess you are having a go at. E and you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I don't want to support a premier league team unless by some miracle OU get their. And I fully realise IL has loaned the club £6 million but truth is it hasn't helped the club improve in a football playing sense, if anything he has kept us going with Managers who haven't developed the playing side well enough. It's an easy thing to work out, we can't beat playing sides because we are not a playing side, we (still) can't defend set pieces well enough or exploit enough of our own set pieces and attacks. I wouldn't watch anyone else and am a proper fan so I will always say it as I see it, because I care about the club, I worry that the "stay away" fans will cost the club dear but I know enough of them to realise that it's the style of football we play that keeps them away. Just look at how many turned up at Wembley to see the club get back into the football league and you realise that 5000 is a poor gate, I know most of the 33,000 won't go but gates of 8000 plus should be the minimum for OU. As regards your comment on the season ticket, I live in Cheshire so do a 320 mile round trip for home games and attend regularly and despite my protestations I know I will continue to. I am also aware that IL has bankrolled the club reasonably well but think the way the money has been spent, most of it going to Kassam, hasn't been well thought out. Look at the clubs that are reasonably successful and they take more of their chances and attack with more pace and vigour which in itself entertains more, yes you won't neccesarily win all your games but you win more than you lose so be reasonably successful and keep bums on seats. Unfortunately IL probably can't provide a new stadium and personally I don't want us to stay at the Kassam, we don't need a stadium as big but something that will accommodate 9 to 10 thousand will suffice, whilst he is bankrolling FK he isn't bankrolling the club adequately, it's a fact. He is also the first to admit that Wigan are his first love he has been very successful there, he's also been very successful as a business man but football is a very different business and if you look around the clubs that don't own their grounds are among the least successful partly because when the going gets tough they don't have the money to strengthen to push on. With the squad we have had this season we have probably over achieved but the fans haven't been entertained anywhere near enough. A younger, cheaper, fitter squad that can take the game to the opposition is what we need and if the club own the stadium they play in then it wouldn't cost as much as IL is spending per season to do it, yes we might stay in Division 4 a few years more but so be it, a successful team in this Division is better than an unsuccessful team in the one above and we would have been back down pretty quick had we gone up. Owning where we play is fundamental to the future success of this club, continue to line Kassam's pockets and we won't be successful on the pitch! Richard Wickson
  • Score: 7

5:24pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Sid Snakey says...

Richard - you don't want much do you? Just a new Chairman with more money than Lenegan, who can pay Lenegan his £6M plus buy the club, who can build us a new stadium, and can afford to assemble a team to meet your requirements for style of play.

Sounds like a great plan though!

Oh hang on, who is this new minted Chairman?

Reminds me of your other cunning plan to replace Wilder with someone else who would be BOUND to be better than Wilder and get us out of League Two no problem at all.

I think I'm going to call you Baldrick from now on.
Richard - you don't want much do you? Just a new Chairman with more money than Lenegan, who can pay Lenegan his £6M plus buy the club, who can build us a new stadium, and can afford to assemble a team to meet your requirements for style of play. Sounds like a great plan though! Oh hang on, who is this new minted Chairman? Reminds me of your other cunning plan to replace Wilder with someone else who would be BOUND to be better than Wilder and get us out of League Two no problem at all. I think I'm going to call you Baldrick from now on. Sid Snakey
  • Score: 9

6:54pm Tue 22 Apr 14

onthebench says...

I just think we should be very careful what we wish for. I know a couple of Swindon fans (through work) who were crowing about the great levels of investment in players their previous owner made. Sadly for them, it was a loan (with interest to be made) which is now weighing very heavily on them. Man City's owners vastly overspend each season, but it is no problem as they write off that debt every year. I know of no other club in the world where this happens. If someone was to take over the club and suddenly invest much higher levels of finance, I would actually be concerned rather than happy. I would rather we 'survived' in the lower divisions trying to build over the longer-term rather than gamble on some short-term success which may, or may not follow. Sadly the truth is that if you look at virtually every Division the League positions of every club pretty much mirror their standings on the Investment in playing Budget. There are of course a few exceptions, but not many. On that basis, we are just about where we should be. I want promotion, but not at any price.
I just think we should be very careful what we wish for. I know a couple of Swindon fans (through work) who were crowing about the great levels of investment in players their previous owner made. Sadly for them, it was a loan (with interest to be made) which is now weighing very heavily on them. Man City's owners vastly overspend each season, but it is no problem as they write off that debt every year. I know of no other club in the world where this happens. If someone was to take over the club and suddenly invest much higher levels of finance, I would actually be concerned rather than happy. I would rather we 'survived' in the lower divisions trying to build over the longer-term rather than gamble on some short-term success which may, or may not follow. Sadly the truth is that if you look at virtually every Division the League positions of every club pretty much mirror their standings on the Investment in playing Budget. There are of course a few exceptions, but not many. On that basis, we are just about where we should be. I want promotion, but not at any price. onthebench
  • Score: 9

3:41am Wed 23 Apr 14

BenkiuGuasu says...

Let's not be stupid monkeys by booing Chris Wilder when Northampton rock up. Let's be clever monkeys and welcome him back and here's hoping Northampton stay up!
Let's not be stupid monkeys by booing Chris Wilder when Northampton rock up. Let's be clever monkeys and welcome him back and here's hoping Northampton stay up! BenkiuGuasu
  • Score: -8

9:44am Wed 23 Apr 14

bigchet says...

am very dissappointed with the way that the team have responded to the challenge at the end of the season and surrendered a good position very meekly. like all our fans i wish we could own our own ground but its not realistic to think that it is possible as the funds will not be available in the foreseeable future. i certainly cant see the logic of people knocking il after what he has done for the club with his investment. a worrying thought for me is that a club will come in with a big offer for clarke as he has been outstanding for us this season and often been the only reason we did not get hammered on occasion.
am very dissappointed with the way that the team have responded to the challenge at the end of the season and surrendered a good position very meekly. like all our fans i wish we could own our own ground but its not realistic to think that it is possible as the funds will not be available in the foreseeable future. i certainly cant see the logic of people knocking il after what he has done for the club with his investment. a worrying thought for me is that a club will come in with a big offer for clarke as he has been outstanding for us this season and often been the only reason we did not get hammered on occasion. bigchet
  • Score: 5

3:21pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Fruit_Bat says...

oldun wrote:
Fruit_Bat wrote:
oldun wrote:
Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two
Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel.

Our record against the top 7 - Won 1, Drawn 3, Lost 10 - sadly sums up this season.
Promotion from here would require at least 4 wins from 5 games (!!??!!).
Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Can't imagine a stampede for season tickets unless you do.
"Time to wake up and smell the coffee" My comment "very much depending on York losing their last two" was (obviously?) about what was ALSO needed merely to reach the playoffs . Of course, it is highly unlikely that all 4 results will come off. Yep, I am happy to smell the coffee. I do expect United to win their last two matches. The fat lady has not sung - obviously highly surprising results like Sunderland's recent win at Stamford Bridge do happen. I wouldn't take 30-1 against United winning at Wembley this year but I would put on £20 if offered 50-1 - wouldn't you? We could be in League One next season - but I don't expect u to be.
@oldun. Sorry, comments weren't directed at you but in response to GW quote.
I was going to write in agreement with your post, but then wrote something else. The OM 'Remove quote' feature clearly failed though!

Naturally, all results COULD still go in our favour and believe you me I so WANT that to happen, BUT.....

I had a feeling when CW left that the last game of the season might see both Us and Town needing to win the fixture and for other results to go our way, but regardless of who won we'd both be disappointed.

Really sad that without any games against Sw*nd*n the one tiny thing we might get out of this season is relegating CW.
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fruit_Bat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Two up front ! Let's have some shots on target!! I Poo or bust on Sat and obviously very much depending on York losing heir last two[/p][/quote]Oxford United boss refuses to throw in the towel. Our record against the top 7 - Won 1, Drawn 3, Lost 10 - sadly sums up this season. Promotion from here would require at least 4 wins from 5 games (!!??!!). Time to wake up and smell the coffee. Can't imagine a stampede for season tickets unless you do.[/p][/quote]"Time to wake up and smell the coffee" My comment "very much depending on York losing their last two" was (obviously?) about what was ALSO needed merely to reach the playoffs . Of course, it is highly unlikely that all 4 results will come off. Yep, I am happy to smell the coffee. I do expect United to win their last two matches. The fat lady has not sung - obviously highly surprising results like Sunderland's recent win at Stamford Bridge do happen. I wouldn't take 30-1 against United winning at Wembley this year but I would put on £20 if offered 50-1 - wouldn't you? We could be in League One next season - but I don't expect u to be.[/p][/quote]@oldun. Sorry, comments weren't directed at you but in response to GW quote. I was going to write in agreement with your post, but then wrote something else. The OM 'Remove quote' feature clearly failed though! Naturally, all results COULD still go in our favour and believe you me I so WANT that to happen, BUT..... I had a feeling when CW left that the last game of the season might see both Us and Town needing to win the fixture and for other results to go our way, but regardless of who won we'd both be disappointed. Really sad that without any games against Sw*nd*n the one tiny thing we might get out of this season is relegating CW. Fruit_Bat
  • Score: 6

4:53pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Doctor69 says...

No one will put more money in than IL, No one will buy the club either. Who will pay £6 million to IL (what he has put in, interest free). We have no assets either, so who in there right mind would want to buy OUFC?

GW needs support from the fans, this mess inst his fault. Its Wilders squad, and its Wilders coaching team that have taken us on this awful run since his departure.

Make no mistake, Wilder knew the limitations of his squad and jumped ship ahead of the tough run in before he got found out....again!
No one will put more money in than IL, No one will buy the club either. Who will pay £6 million to IL (what he has put in, interest free). We have no assets either, so who in there right mind would want to buy OUFC? GW needs support from the fans, this mess inst his fault. Its Wilders squad, and its Wilders coaching team that have taken us on this awful run since his departure. Make no mistake, Wilder knew the limitations of his squad and jumped ship ahead of the tough run in before he got found out....again! Doctor69
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Southstandupper says...

I think it wrong to blame IL and GW for the demise in fortunes. Kassam has us tied in knots financially but IL did say in the past money was in place to buy the stadium so where has that money gone or at least tell us what the current position is regarding the ground purchase. Agree it is not over until the fat lady sings but realistically with the current squad in a losing mentality we have no chance (but again stranger things happen). Of course we don't know what is going on behind the scenes, maybe players have been told already that they will not be playing for OUFC next season so maybe they feel why bust a gut!!!! maybe some have already signed for other clubs!!!! hard to fathom as all employees of any business are expected to contribute to the success of that business, we have only one playing success this year in the shape of Clarke. the rest of the team have performed poorly especially over the last 10-15 games. A major overhaul is needed and it will be interesting to see when GW does his Summer business, early as per CW liked to do or gradually through the break. I feel that early good business is needed to help with season tickets. Anyway as the fat lady has not sung yet just off to the local fortune teller to see if I can gather any predictions for the next two games.
I think it wrong to blame IL and GW for the demise in fortunes. Kassam has us tied in knots financially but IL did say in the past money was in place to buy the stadium so where has that money gone or at least tell us what the current position is regarding the ground purchase. Agree it is not over until the fat lady sings but realistically with the current squad in a losing mentality we have no chance (but again stranger things happen). Of course we don't know what is going on behind the scenes, maybe players have been told already that they will not be playing for OUFC next season so maybe they feel why bust a gut!!!! maybe some have already signed for other clubs!!!! hard to fathom as all employees of any business are expected to contribute to the success of that business, we have only one playing success this year in the shape of Clarke. the rest of the team have performed poorly especially over the last 10-15 games. A major overhaul is needed and it will be interesting to see when GW does his Summer business, early as per CW liked to do or gradually through the break. I feel that early good business is needed to help with season tickets. Anyway as the fat lady has not sung yet just off to the local fortune teller to see if I can gather any predictions for the next two games. Southstandupper
  • Score: 0

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