United sign controversial keeper Luke McCormick

9:30am Friday 1st February 2013 in Sport Photograph of the Author By David Pritchard, Chief Sports Reporter covering Oxford United. Follow us on twitter: @oxfordmailoufc. Call me on 01865 425458

Luke McCormick was jailed after a car crash Luke McCormick was jailed after a car crash

The signing of controversial goalkeeper Luke McCormick was among three deals Oxford United concluded just before the transfer deadline last night.

Justin Richards will also stay until the end of the season, while Tyrone Marsh was loaned out to Staines Town for the rest of the campaign.

Of the three deals, McCormick’s will undoubtedly capture the most attention.

The goalkeeper was sentenced to more than seven years in prison after admitting to killing two children in a car crash in 2008.

McCormick, who was more than twice over the drink-drive limit when it happened, was released last summer after serving three and a half years.

He trained with Swindon Town, but was not offered a contract and instead joined Truro City on non-contract terms in November.

The 29-year-old is in line to start for United at Southend tomorrow, which would be his first appearance in the Football League for almost five years.

United chairman Ian Lenagan said: “The tragic events in Luke’s past will never go away and that is something he will have to bear for the rest of his days. He made the biggest mistake of his life and no amount of apologies will ever change what happened. He served his sentence and knows what he did was wrong.

“As a club we have thought long and hard about whether to employ a player with his background.

“But his clear repentance and the opportunity to allow him to rehabilitate while meeting our unique goalkeeping situation within the salary cap – which we might otherwise not have been able to do – resulted in our decision to sign him.”

United boss Chris Wilder said: “I have spoken to Luke at length and he knows that it will not be easy for him, but he is very humble and wants to try and make the most of the opportunity.”

Richards joined United for a second spell earlier last month as cover for James Constable’s suspension.

The four-week loan was due to expire after this weekend, but the 32-year-old agreed a settlement with parent club Burton Albion yesterday for the remainder of his contract, which was up in the summer.

The striker has now signed a contract with the U’s for the rest of the season.

Wilder said: “I think he’s what’s needed going into the run-in.”

Richards arrival paved the way for Marsh to go out on loan.

The 19-year-old has made five senior appearances this season, scoring his first goal last month against Southend in the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy.

Wilder had intended to loan Marsh out earlier in the season, but injuries to other players prevented a move.

Now he hopes the striker can benefit from playing week-in week-out at the Blue Square Bet South strugglers.

He said: “Ty’s done well in and around the squad, but we need to see him go and play regular games.”

Comments (41)

10:00am Fri 1 Feb 13

BigAlBiker says...

What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles.

Time to go for definate.
What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles. Time to go for definate. BigAlBiker

11:09am Fri 1 Feb 13

The Good Ship Hardy says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles.

Time to go for definate.
He needs another goalie because he could lose Crocombe with injury and world cup duties this month too. However this keeper is not for me...Funny how all those fans who slagged ST off when he trained with them in the summer, have now of course gone quiet..A week Saturday will be interesting to say the least
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles. Time to go for definate.[/p][/quote]He needs another goalie because he could lose Crocombe with injury and world cup duties this month too. However this keeper is not for me...Funny how all those fans who slagged ST off when he trained with them in the summer, have now of course gone quiet..A week Saturday will be interesting to say the least The Good Ship Hardy

11:09am Fri 1 Feb 13

GRB says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles.

Time to go for definate.
How do you know he's not keeping faith with Crocombe?
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles. Time to go for definate.[/p][/quote]How do you know he's not keeping faith with Crocombe? GRB

11:28am Fri 1 Feb 13

BigAlBiker says...

GRB wrote:
BigAlBiker wrote:
What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles.

Time to go for definate.
How do you know he's not keeping faith with Crocombe?
If he was keeping faith with Crocombe why sign another keeper? Brown on the bench makes sense.

Have a word.
[quote][p][bold]GRB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles. Time to go for definate.[/p][/quote]How do you know he's not keeping faith with Crocombe?[/p][/quote]If he was keeping faith with Crocombe why sign another keeper? Brown on the bench makes sense. Have a word. BigAlBiker

12:09pm Fri 1 Feb 13

OxfordResident says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
GRB wrote:
BigAlBiker wrote:
What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles.

Time to go for definate.
How do you know he's not keeping faith with Crocombe?
If he was keeping faith with Crocombe why sign another keeper? Brown on the bench makes sense.

Have a word.
Because Max may well be away on international duty soon...
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GRB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: What is this club coming to, now i KNOW its time for Wilder to leave, Letting Tyrone Marsh out on loan and not keeping faith with MaxCrocombe has proved he has lost his marbles. Time to go for definate.[/p][/quote]How do you know he's not keeping faith with Crocombe?[/p][/quote]If he was keeping faith with Crocombe why sign another keeper? Brown on the bench makes sense. Have a word.[/p][/quote]Because Max may well be away on international duty soon... OxfordResident

12:16pm Fri 1 Feb 13

AylesburyOx says...

I don't care if we have to play with Worley in goal (god knows he wants to play for the club)

I will not be attending matches if this man is named in the squad.

Shocking management decision and shows the complete lack of regard for the fans of OUFC.

Also great to see us dropping our young and confident keeper and shipping out a talented striker - real progress Mr Wilder
I don't care if we have to play with Worley in goal (god knows he wants to play for the club) I will not be attending matches if this man is named in the squad. Shocking management decision and shows the complete lack of regard for the fans of OUFC. Also great to see us dropping our young and confident keeper and shipping out a talented striker - real progress Mr Wilder AylesburyOx

12:42pm Fri 1 Feb 13

OUFC1983 says...

I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes.

Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season.

Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.
I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season. OUFC1983

1:18pm Fri 1 Feb 13

AylesburyOx says...

OUFC1983 wrote:
I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.
There's no similarity between Chapman and McCormick - Adam Chapman made a very bad but naive decision, while McCormick knowingly got into and drove a vehicle while twice over the drink drive limit.

I agree about Richards and the rest of your expecations though; not a happy Friday for Oxford United.
[quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.[/p][/quote]There's no similarity between Chapman and McCormick - Adam Chapman made a very bad but naive decision, while McCormick knowingly got into and drove a vehicle while twice over the drink drive limit. I agree about Richards and the rest of your expecations though; not a happy Friday for Oxford United. AylesburyOx

1:31pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Kennys hat says...

Surely the justice system in the country says a man serves his sentence as society demands and then is judged free. Luke served half his sentence (as most people do with time off for good behaviour) and is now again trying to make his way in the world. Adam Chapman is the same.

I you found out your local supermarket had people working there with "spent" convictions would you stop shopping there?
Surely the justice system in the country says a man serves his sentence as society demands and then is judged free. Luke served half his sentence (as most people do with time off for good behaviour) and is now again trying to make his way in the world. Adam Chapman is the same. I you found out your local supermarket had people working there with "spent" convictions would you stop shopping there? Kennys hat

1:32pm Fri 1 Feb 13

OxfordResident says...

AylesburyOx wrote:
OUFC1983 wrote:
I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.
There's no similarity between Chapman and McCormick - Adam Chapman made a very bad but naive decision, while McCormick knowingly got into and drove a vehicle while twice over the drink drive limit.

I agree about Richards and the rest of your expecations though; not a happy Friday for Oxford United.
They both caused death by reckless behavior in a car.
Not defending or slamming either. Both have served the punishment deemed suitable in law, both are remorseful.
[quote][p][bold]AylesburyOx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.[/p][/quote]There's no similarity between Chapman and McCormick - Adam Chapman made a very bad but naive decision, while McCormick knowingly got into and drove a vehicle while twice over the drink drive limit. I agree about Richards and the rest of your expecations though; not a happy Friday for Oxford United.[/p][/quote]They both caused death by reckless behavior in a car. Not defending or slamming either. Both have served the punishment deemed suitable in law, both are remorseful. OxfordResident

1:41pm Fri 1 Feb 13

AylesburyOx says...

OxfordResident wrote:
AylesburyOx wrote:
OUFC1983 wrote: I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.
There's no similarity between Chapman and McCormick - Adam Chapman made a very bad but naive decision, while McCormick knowingly got into and drove a vehicle while twice over the drink drive limit. I agree about Richards and the rest of your expecations though; not a happy Friday for Oxford United.
They both caused death by reckless behavior in a car. Not defending or slamming either. Both have served the punishment deemed suitable in law, both are remorseful.
Chapman wasn't twice over the drink driving limit. That simple.

McCormick may be remorseful but I don't want him at the club and am sure there will be a significant percentage of Oxford fans who like myself will vote with their feet and choose to stay away from the club.
[quote][p][bold]OxfordResident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AylesburyOx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUFC1983[/bold] wrote: I agree that this is a controversial signing, but we need to remember that we stood by Adam Chapman and gave him a standing ovation at Wembley before he went to prison for similar crimes. Max will be a good goalie but we need back up if he goes on international duty, as Brown is not good enough for the rest of the season. Richards is an awful signing though, and I think I'm now resigned to admitting we will not be featuring in the play offs this season.[/p][/quote]There's no similarity between Chapman and McCormick - Adam Chapman made a very bad but naive decision, while McCormick knowingly got into and drove a vehicle while twice over the drink drive limit. I agree about Richards and the rest of your expecations though; not a happy Friday for Oxford United.[/p][/quote]They both caused death by reckless behavior in a car. Not defending or slamming either. Both have served the punishment deemed suitable in law, both are remorseful.[/p][/quote]Chapman wasn't twice over the drink driving limit. That simple. McCormick may be remorseful but I don't want him at the club and am sure there will be a significant percentage of Oxford fans who like myself will vote with their feet and choose to stay away from the club. AylesburyOx

2:06pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Oxon21 says...

Let's just take a step back for a moment. If you had been convicted of a crime, and served a punishment set , would you not want to be integrated back into society?

I'm not saying what he did can be forgotten or brushed under the carpet, as it can't, and yes this guy will have to live with that for the rest of his days.

Do I wish OUFC had not signed him? Yes. But we have and lets just go with it. Boycotting games will not help the club that we support.

Lets just trust in those that manage the club, that this was the right decision to make, and lets support our team to promotion.
Let's just take a step back for a moment. If you had been convicted of a crime, and served a punishment set , would you not want to be integrated back into society? I'm not saying what he did can be forgotten or brushed under the carpet, as it can't, and yes this guy will have to live with that for the rest of his days. Do I wish OUFC had not signed him? Yes. But we have and lets just go with it. Boycotting games will not help the club that we support. Lets just trust in those that manage the club, that this was the right decision to make, and lets support our team to promotion. Oxon21

2:20pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Brenda Jackson says...

Remorseful or not LM committed a terrible crime that took away the lives of two young children-and left their father in a wheelchair. No doubt it has also devasted the remaining family who will be living a nightmare for the rest of their lives.
Footballers who are in the Public domain
and who are held up as role models- have huge responsibility to behave and act correctly, a crime of this magnitude cannot merely be forgotten by saying 'he's served his time' and one i heard on the radio was shockingly insensitive ''Life goes on.'' Not for them two children it doesn't.
An abysmal decision by a so called 'family Club.'
Remorseful or not LM committed a terrible crime that took away the lives of two young children-and left their father in a wheelchair. No doubt it has also devasted the remaining family who will be living a nightmare for the rest of their lives. Footballers who are in the Public domain and who are held up as role models- have huge responsibility to behave and act correctly, a crime of this magnitude cannot merely be forgotten by saying 'he's served his time' and one i heard on the radio was shockingly insensitive ''Life goes on.'' Not for them two children it doesn't. An abysmal decision by a so called 'family Club.' Brenda Jackson

2:40pm Fri 1 Feb 13

OUFC1983 says...

We all have our opinions on McCormick, but the fact of the matter is we have signed him. He will play his part between now and the end of the season then leave the club. I for one will not be boycotting any games because of this.

We have to stick behind the club as our accounts showed our average attendance this season is down drastically. It's only the club that suffers because of this.
We all have our opinions on McCormick, but the fact of the matter is we have signed him. He will play his part between now and the end of the season then leave the club. I for one will not be boycotting any games because of this. We have to stick behind the club as our accounts showed our average attendance this season is down drastically. It's only the club that suffers because of this. OUFC1983

3:23pm Fri 1 Feb 13

cecantena1 says...

Oxon21 wrote:
Let's just take a step back for a moment. If you had been convicted of a crime, and served a punishment set , would you not want to be integrated back into society?

I'm not saying what he did can be forgotten or brushed under the carpet, as it can't, and yes this guy will have to live with that for the rest of his days.

Do I wish OUFC had not signed him? Yes. But we have and lets just go with it. Boycotting games will not help the club that we support.

Lets just trust in those that manage the club, that this was the right decision to make, and lets support our team to promotion.
Well said sir!
[quote][p][bold]Oxon21[/bold] wrote: Let's just take a step back for a moment. If you had been convicted of a crime, and served a punishment set , would you not want to be integrated back into society? I'm not saying what he did can be forgotten or brushed under the carpet, as it can't, and yes this guy will have to live with that for the rest of his days. Do I wish OUFC had not signed him? Yes. But we have and lets just go with it. Boycotting games will not help the club that we support. Lets just trust in those that manage the club, that this was the right decision to make, and lets support our team to promotion.[/p][/quote]Well said sir! cecantena1

4:02pm Fri 1 Feb 13

wheatley_jake says...

We can all have our opinions, but we have signed him now. plus with losing Crocombe to the youth world cup we needed back up as Brown has proven himself as not up to the job in recent times. I'm sure Wilder would have had other players he would have rather signed, but what else was out there yesterday? What with being very near the maximum wage bill...
We can all have our opinions, but we have signed him now. plus with losing Crocombe to the youth world cup we needed back up as Brown has proven himself as not up to the job in recent times. I'm sure Wilder would have had other players he would have rather signed, but what else was out there yesterday? What with being very near the maximum wage bill... wheatley_jake

4:11pm Fri 1 Feb 13

AR Davis says...

CW & IL what the FCUK are you doing to OUFC. Great PR IL announcing publically we are down £450,000 due to attendances falling, this is due to **** football, lovely to see a 40 yard pass back to goalie then loose the **** ball, Then we here again publically we are to loose the sponsorship of Brindle!! and just to make things worse we sign a Kiddy Killer??? family club my arse, what a great advert for our club. 16 players contracts up for grabs at the end of the season. Time to rebuild! It is a perfect time to get rid of this lousy somewhat clueless tinkering of a manager in fact get rid of the coaching staff bloody diabolical, New manager with new squad start again. Things are not good at my beloved Oxford United.

Mr Davis, Portsmouth.
CW & IL what the FCUK are you doing to OUFC. Great PR IL announcing publically we are down £450,000 due to attendances falling, this is due to **** football, lovely to see a 40 yard pass back to goalie then loose the **** ball, Then we here again publically we are to loose the sponsorship of Brindle!! and just to make things worse we sign a Kiddy Killer??? family club my arse, what a great advert for our club. 16 players contracts up for grabs at the end of the season. Time to rebuild! It is a perfect time to get rid of this lousy somewhat clueless tinkering of a manager in fact get rid of the coaching staff bloody diabolical, New manager with new squad start again. Things are not good at my beloved Oxford United. Mr Davis, Portsmouth. AR Davis

4:47pm Fri 1 Feb 13

winger whitley says...

Hysterical moralising nonsense from most blogs. Most of it coming from the usual critics of the club. There are more than a couple of players, guilty of horrific crimes still playing football. One playing in the championship after being convicted of a serious sexual assault against a woman. We forgive and move on, principles? I'd take Heinrich Himmler, Pol Pot & Charles Manson as a front 3 if they'd get us out of this cow flop of a league!
Hysterical moralising nonsense from most blogs. Most of it coming from the usual critics of the club. There are more than a couple of players, guilty of horrific crimes still playing football. One playing in the championship after being convicted of a serious sexual assault against a woman. We forgive and move on, principles? I'd take Heinrich Himmler, Pol Pot & Charles Manson as a front 3 if they'd get us out of this cow flop of a league! winger whitley

5:00pm Fri 1 Feb 13

bobheironimus says...

If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!!
If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!! bobheironimus

5:33pm Fri 1 Feb 13

faatmaan says...

boy this board was loaded against Swindon during his tenure then, is this desperation or hypocracy.
boy this board was loaded against Swindon during his tenure then, is this desperation or hypocracy. faatmaan

6:06pm Fri 1 Feb 13

KojaktheWarg says...

faatmaan wrote:
boy this board was loaded against Swindon during his tenure then, is this desperation or hypocracy.
Yes, a shame they dont retain history on this site to see who the previously-outraged are. I have been wondering where all the "Outraged of Headington" types have gone since the period when Swindon were letting him train with them (and that was just training, not signing).

Well personally, I think its a tricky one. If you serve your time and are remorseful should you lose your trade just because its in the public eye? If that's the case it should be for everyone and not just this young man.
[quote][p][bold]faatmaan[/bold] wrote: boy this board was loaded against Swindon during his tenure then, is this desperation or hypocracy.[/p][/quote]Yes, a shame they dont retain history on this site to see who the previously-outraged are. I have been wondering where all the "Outraged of Headington" types have gone since the period when Swindon were letting him train with them (and that was just training, not signing). Well personally, I think its a tricky one. If you serve your time and are remorseful should you lose your trade just because its in the public eye? If that's the case it should be for everyone and not just this young man. KojaktheWarg

6:35pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

I think you are lucky the Swindon lot have more on their minds than returning all the grief you gave the Adver when this individual was only training at the County Ground - mind you he wasn't welcomed by the supporters and I think he soon got the message that the likes of him were not wanted, and left.
I think you are lucky the Swindon lot have more on their minds than returning all the grief you gave the Adver when this individual was only training at the County Ground - mind you he wasn't welcomed by the supporters and I think he soon got the message that the likes of him were not wanted, and left. Chish and Fips

6:38pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Chish and Fips says...

bobheironimus wrote:
If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!!
Bit too much baggage to overlook ..... perhaps you could share your views with the family of the deceased children.
[quote][p][bold]bobheironimus[/bold] wrote: If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!![/p][/quote]Bit too much baggage to overlook ..... perhaps you could share your views with the family of the deceased children. Chish and Fips

6:54pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Beau champ mummy says...

We will be know as a convicts paradise soon
We will be know as a convicts paradise soon Beau champ mummy

7:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Sid Hunt says...

If the judiciary handed down appropriate sentences this discussion would not be taking place.
If the judiciary handed down appropriate sentences this discussion would not be taking place. Sid Hunt

7:37pm Fri 1 Feb 13

pop up pirate says...

We are on here about this. I feel for the family that lost the little ones as a parent I could only imagine what they went & am going through. But with that said it also applies to the parents of Luke & Adam.
I expect some people on here have texted while driving & have known people who have had a drink & drove where nothing happened except that they got to where they intended to without any incident & they said nothing at the time. If only someone had said something to these two, who knows what would have happened to their lives & their families.
I don’t judge people just hope that they get on & deal with their lives as best as they can because it will always be with them. That is probably the heaviest cross anybody could carry.
We are on here about this. I feel for the family that lost the little ones as a parent I could only imagine what they went & am going through. But with that said it also applies to the parents of Luke & Adam. I expect some people on here have texted while driving & have known people who have had a drink & drove where nothing happened except that they got to where they intended to without any incident & they said nothing at the time. If only someone had said something to these two, who knows what would have happened to their lives & their families. I don’t judge people just hope that they get on & deal with their lives as best as they can because it will always be with them. That is probably the heaviest cross anybody could carry. pop up pirate

8:20pm Fri 1 Feb 13

Director General says...

Mr Wilder is totally against youngsters at the club,Crocombe good debut then out of the picture when McCormick signs.Raynes in front of Worley whose never been given a fair crack.Tyrone who ran Southend ragged loaned out.David Lynn best left back at the club reportedly nowhere near the first team squad .Fans would rather see youngsters playing than jobbing thirtysomethings with no love for the club.
Mr Wilder is totally against youngsters at the club,Crocombe good debut then out of the picture when McCormick signs.Raynes in front of Worley whose never been given a fair crack.Tyrone who ran Southend ragged loaned out.David Lynn best left back at the club reportedly nowhere near the first team squad .Fans would rather see youngsters playing than jobbing thirtysomethings with no love for the club. Director General

9:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13

devonexile says...

Some of the negative comments are from people who have committed the same offences, but by the grace of god did not end with the same sad ending. Typical Lynch Mob mentality, he has according to the law of this land served his time, although I suspect his life will always be filled with guilt, those who claim they will not go to games if this young man plays are not OU fans. I for one wish him well whilst at Oxford. The family whose lives were destroyed that fateful day I hope find peace of mind in the future. Those of you with lead in your boots and booze in your bellies and a mobile in your hand whilst driving take note of the misery your actions can cause for many, every day similar events are taking place in this increasingly violent and unforgiving society.
Some of the negative comments are from people who have committed the same offences, but by the grace of god did not end with the same sad ending. Typical Lynch Mob mentality, he has according to the law of this land served his time, although I suspect his life will always be filled with guilt, those who claim they will not go to games if this young man plays are not OU fans. I for one wish him well whilst at Oxford. The family whose lives were destroyed that fateful day I hope find peace of mind in the future. Those of you with lead in your boots and booze in your bellies and a mobile in your hand whilst driving take note of the misery your actions can cause for many, every day similar events are taking place in this increasingly violent and unforgiving society. devonexile

9:42pm Fri 1 Feb 13

oxjim says...

devonexile wrote:
Some of the negative comments are from people who have committed the same offences, but by the grace of god did not end with the same sad ending. Typical Lynch Mob mentality, he has according to the law of this land served his time, although I suspect his life will always be filled with guilt, those who claim they will not go to games if this young man plays are not OU fans. I for one wish him well whilst at Oxford. The family whose lives were destroyed that fateful day I hope find peace of mind in the future. Those of you with lead in your boots and booze in your bellies and a mobile in your hand whilst driving take note of the misery your actions can cause for many, every day similar events are taking place in this increasingly violent and unforgiving society.
My Timmy would be 16 now!, I will not let the my memory of my son be spoilt by watching oxford ever again. Everybody is entitled to an opinion right or wrong!.
[quote][p][bold]devonexile[/bold] wrote: Some of the negative comments are from people who have committed the same offences, but by the grace of god did not end with the same sad ending. Typical Lynch Mob mentality, he has according to the law of this land served his time, although I suspect his life will always be filled with guilt, those who claim they will not go to games if this young man plays are not OU fans. I for one wish him well whilst at Oxford. The family whose lives were destroyed that fateful day I hope find peace of mind in the future. Those of you with lead in your boots and booze in your bellies and a mobile in your hand whilst driving take note of the misery your actions can cause for many, every day similar events are taking place in this increasingly violent and unforgiving society.[/p][/quote]My Timmy would be 16 now!, I will not let the my memory of my son be spoilt by watching oxford ever again. Everybody is entitled to an opinion right or wrong!. oxjim

10:48pm Fri 1 Feb 13

wend says...

If a convicted person has served his sentence should he not be expected to return to the job market and start earning a living and not joining the dole queue? The fact that he is a footballer should make no difference if that is what his trade is; he could just as well have been a postie, window cleaner or anything else he should still be expected/allowed to earn his living. By the way killing someone through bad driving is a dreadful crime whether the driver is drunk or sober, whether the victim is a child or an adult (possibly a parent) should make no difference - it is still a crime.
If a convicted person has served his sentence should he not be expected to return to the job market and start earning a living and not joining the dole queue? The fact that he is a footballer should make no difference if that is what his trade is; he could just as well have been a postie, window cleaner or anything else he should still be expected/allowed to earn his living. By the way killing someone through bad driving is a dreadful crime whether the driver is drunk or sober, whether the victim is a child or an adult (possibly a parent) should make no difference - it is still a crime. wend

11:03pm Fri 1 Feb 13

CamView says...

Sa what you what you will - this is a PR disaster.

There a plenty keepers boh in the leaue and in non league
that could give us good cover wthuout signing this guy. It shows very poor Management judgement.

This at a time whe the crowds are dropping off dratically.ande ned a new sponsor.
Sa what you what you will - this is a PR disaster. There a plenty keepers boh in the leaue and in non league that could give us good cover wthuout signing this guy. It shows very poor Management judgement. This at a time whe the crowds are dropping off dratically.ande ned a new sponsor. CamView

11:42pm Fri 1 Feb 13

train passenger says...

I think that holding on to Chapman could perhaps be justified for some of the reasons above (give people who are already part of your community a second chance), although having had my father die in a car crash due to someone else's negligence I could personally not have made the same choice. But to then bring in a second person who uses a car as a deadly weapon borders on the insane in my view. Not because the guy doesn't deserve it (I don't know him, so can't judge), but because as an organisation you then demonstrate you just don't care. Perhaps if someone in the owner's / manager's family needs to be run over before they understand.
I think that holding on to Chapman could perhaps be justified for some of the reasons above (give people who are already part of your community a second chance), although having had my father die in a car crash due to someone else's negligence I could personally not have made the same choice. But to then bring in a second person who uses a car as a deadly weapon borders on the insane in my view. Not because the guy doesn't deserve it (I don't know him, so can't judge), but because as an organisation you then demonstrate you just don't care. Perhaps if someone in the owner's / manager's family needs to be run over before they understand. train passenger

12:47am Sat 2 Feb 13

wend says...

Train passenger - you make a very fair point there re employing two killer drivers. I don't have a solution though.
Train passenger - you make a very fair point there re employing two killer drivers. I don't have a solution though. wend

11:02am Sat 2 Feb 13

WindsorYellow says...

On another note has anyone seen where Truro city are in the league!!!! Thats right bottom with 9 points!!! Now if that's the sort of players we go after . wilder needs to go!!! As for off the field what if it was one of your kid's?!?!? HE'S NOT WANTED!!!!
On another note has anyone seen where Truro city are in the league!!!! Thats right bottom with 9 points!!! Now if that's the sort of players we go after . wilder needs to go!!! As for off the field what if it was one of your kid's?!?!? HE'S NOT WANTED!!!! WindsorYellow

11:11am Sat 2 Feb 13

In_The_Nikon_Time says...

CamView wrote:
Sa what you what you will - this is a PR disaster.

There a plenty keepers boh in the leaue and in non league
that could give us good cover wthuout signing this guy. It shows very poor Management judgement.

This at a time whe the crowds are dropping off dratically.ande ned a new sponsor.
Anyone can make a mistake, driving while 2 times over the limit is not a mistake. What do the club sponsors think of having this man representing their brand? Driving while under the influence is never an accident, we all have a choice and this man chose to drink and drive, be it stupidity or arrogance, it matters not, the outcome is the same.

Would the owner or manager have the same compassion if members of their family were the victims? I think not.

On a lighter note, I read with interest this morning that Di Canio is not a happy bunny and is undecided on his future hopefully this news will keep the Swindon fans too busy on their own site to come on here spouting their usual wind up drivel. Of course Di Canio could always replace Wilder, that would really give them something to whine over ;-)
[quote][p][bold]CamView[/bold] wrote: Sa what you what you will - this is a PR disaster. There a plenty keepers boh in the leaue and in non league that could give us good cover wthuout signing this guy. It shows very poor Management judgement. This at a time whe the crowds are dropping off dratically.ande ned a new sponsor.[/p][/quote]Anyone can make a mistake, driving while 2 times over the limit is not a mistake. What do the club sponsors think of having this man representing their brand? Driving while under the influence is never an accident, we all have a choice and this man chose to drink and drive, be it stupidity or arrogance, it matters not, the outcome is the same. Would the owner or manager have the same compassion if members of their family were the victims? I think not. On a lighter note, I read with interest this morning that Di Canio is not a happy bunny and is undecided on his future hopefully this news will keep the Swindon fans too busy on their own site to come on here spouting their usual wind up drivel. Of course Di Canio could always replace Wilder, that would really give them something to whine over ;-) In_The_Nikon_Time

11:56am Sat 2 Feb 13

Manor Born says...

If it's about wages why did Lenagan sanction the Richards loan move? A player deemed to be not good enough when we were a conference side. Surely it would have been better to save those wages & combined with those of that other player coming in? We would have got a decent keeper with the relevant experience and without the baggage.

Would have been far better to keep Marsh who would gain far more experience being in the first team squad than shipping him off to Staines to play the likes of Truro & Bishop Stortford.
If it's about wages why did Lenagan sanction the Richards loan move? A player deemed to be not good enough when we were a conference side. Surely it would have been better to save those wages & combined with those of that other player coming in? We would have got a decent keeper with the relevant experience and without the baggage. Would have been far better to keep Marsh who would gain far more experience being in the first team squad than shipping him off to Staines to play the likes of Truro & Bishop Stortford. Manor Born

1:28pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Merekat1 says...

What are you doing to our once great club Mr Wilder?.

You are well and truly out of your depth when it comes to just about everything concerning our club.

Truly ashamed.
What are you doing to our once great club Mr Wilder?. You are well and truly out of your depth when it comes to just about everything concerning our club. Truly ashamed. Merekat1

4:11pm Sat 2 Feb 13

BenkiuGuasu says...

WindsorYellow wrote:
On another note has anyone seen where Truro city are in the league!!!! Thats right bottom with 9 points!!! Now if that's the sort of players we go after . wilder needs to go!!! As for off the field what if it was one of your kid's?!?!? HE'S NOT WANTED!!!!
That doesn't mean anything. Of more significance is the fact that he has played in the championship, and only left the championship for non-footballing reasons. Truro City being bottom means our new goalie has had lots of practise! Good luck mate, LET'S PUSH UP THE LEAGUE!!! yEAHHH....

As for Tyrone, he ain't ready yet... Crocombe? Needs to go out on loan first... Richards? Hhmmmm..... Think the state of the pitch may have something to do with this.... A target man for a cut up pitch. Wilder nose best. He has the best knows.
[quote][p][bold]WindsorYellow[/bold] wrote: On another note has anyone seen where Truro city are in the league!!!! Thats right bottom with 9 points!!! Now if that's the sort of players we go after . wilder needs to go!!! As for off the field what if it was one of your kid's?!?!? HE'S NOT WANTED!!!![/p][/quote]That doesn't mean anything. Of more significance is the fact that he has played in the championship, and only left the championship for non-footballing reasons. Truro City being bottom means our new goalie has had lots of practise! Good luck mate, LET'S PUSH UP THE LEAGUE!!! yEAHHH.... As for Tyrone, he ain't ready yet... Crocombe? Needs to go out on loan first... Richards? Hhmmmm..... Think the state of the pitch may have something to do with this.... A target man for a cut up pitch. Wilder nose best. He has the best knows. BenkiuGuasu

1:25pm Tue 5 Feb 13

sablond oxford says...

Chish and Fips wrote:
bobheironimus wrote:
If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!!
Bit too much baggage to overlook ..... perhaps you could share your views with the family of the deceased children.
I agree with you Chish and Fips also he hasn't shown any remorse for his actions, why should he be given a second chance when the children weren't and he has given their family a life sentence.
[quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobheironimus[/bold] wrote: If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!![/p][/quote]Bit too much baggage to overlook ..... perhaps you could share your views with the family of the deceased children.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Chish and Fips also he hasn't shown any remorse for his actions, why should he be given a second chance when the children weren't and he has given their family a life sentence. sablond oxford

1:29pm Tue 5 Feb 13

sablond oxford says...

Brenda Jackson wrote:
Remorseful or not LM committed a terrible crime that took away the lives of two young children-and left their father in a wheelchair. No doubt it has also devasted the remaining family who will be living a nightmare for the rest of their lives.
Footballers who are in the Public domain
and who are held up as role models- have huge responsibility to behave and act correctly, a crime of this magnitude cannot merely be forgotten by saying 'he's served his time' and one i heard on the radio was shockingly insensitive ''Life goes on.'' Not for them two children it doesn't.
An abysmal decision by a so called 'family Club.'
totally agree.
I don't think OU thought this through, Instead of a boycott i think everyone should boo when he walks on the pitch.
[quote][p][bold]Brenda Jackson[/bold] wrote: Remorseful or not LM committed a terrible crime that took away the lives of two young children-and left their father in a wheelchair. No doubt it has also devasted the remaining family who will be living a nightmare for the rest of their lives. Footballers who are in the Public domain and who are held up as role models- have huge responsibility to behave and act correctly, a crime of this magnitude cannot merely be forgotten by saying 'he's served his time' and one i heard on the radio was shockingly insensitive ''Life goes on.'' Not for them two children it doesn't. An abysmal decision by a so called 'family Club.'[/p][/quote]totally agree. I don't think OU thought this through, Instead of a boycott i think everyone should boo when he walks on the pitch. sablond oxford

2:18pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Grunden Skip says...

sablond oxford wrote:
Chish and Fips wrote:
bobheironimus wrote:
If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!!
Bit too much baggage to overlook ..... perhaps you could share your views with the family of the deceased children.
I agree with you Chish and Fips also he hasn't shown any remorse for his actions, why should he be given a second chance when the children weren't and he has given their family a life sentence.
Don't you read the story and not just headlines blondie, he has shown remorse, he put his hands up and did his time. Let the guy get on with his life, or do you want the death penalty brought back, the way you are talking that is the only thing that will please you.
[quote][p][bold]sablond oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chish and Fips[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bobheironimus[/bold] wrote: If you really were oxford fans you shouldn't care about his past, I certainly don't as he did his time. He is a championship standard goalkeeper So you should be grateful for getting him!!![/p][/quote]Bit too much baggage to overlook ..... perhaps you could share your views with the family of the deceased children.[/p][/quote]I agree with you Chish and Fips also he hasn't shown any remorse for his actions, why should he be given a second chance when the children weren't and he has given their family a life sentence.[/p][/quote]Don't you read the story and not just headlines blondie, he has shown remorse, he put his hands up and did his time. Let the guy get on with his life, or do you want the death penalty brought back, the way you are talking that is the only thing that will please you. Grunden Skip

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