Train firms criticised for more price rises

Rob Watson Rob Watson

COMMUTERS last night blasted train firms for inflation-busting prices despite no improvement in punctuality.

Operators are today putting up season tickets in Oxfordshire by up to 9.2 per cent. First Great Western (FGW) commuters face a 4.2 per cent increase despite “very poor” punctuality.

So far this year, 89.9 per cent of the firm’s trains arrived within five minutes of its schedule across the network.

This is worse than each year since April 2008, when punctuality was 90.5 per cent followed by 92.4, 90.3 and 90.6 per cent in the following years.

Ninety per cent arrived within five minutes in London and Thames Valley from April to November this year, down from 92.1 per cent in 2010/11.

And figures published for the first time show about 70.6 per cent arrive within a minute across the network.

But Oxford and Didcot Parkway passengers today face a 12-month ticket increase to London from £4,348 to £4,532 – an extra £184 or 4.2 per cent. The season ticket price was £3,892 in 2008.

Oxford to Paddington commuter Rob Watson said: “It is shockingly poor value to have to pay more for a service that simply stays the same or gets worse.”

The 51-year-old BBC journalist said he was often late for meetings and often missed time with his children, six and eight, in the evening.

He said: “It is such an appalling service. It is deeply frustrating.

“I can’t remember getting on a train in the last few weeks where something hasn’t happened.

“I saw a woman recently crying on the train because her childcare arrangements were messed up because they were late. She was saying ‘please hold onto my child, I will be back soon’.”

Dennis Tan, of FGW passenger group OxRail, said: “Punctuality has been very very poor. It has been bad all year round.

“Because the service has not even stood still, it has gone backwards, it is dreadful they have decided to go for 4.2 per cent.”

It comes after FGW’s Banbury to London Paddington service was last month named the fifth most overcrowded in the UK.

The snapshot autumn 2011 survey found 356 people went for 225 seats for the 6.30am from Banbury.

FGW spokesman James Davis said: “We understand that these are tough times for many people but the money raised by Government through fares ensures investment in more trains, better stations and faster services.”

Performance “has not been as good as it should have been over recent weeks” but some delays were down to Network Rail, he said.

Network Rail said flooding had impacted on services, adding: “We will continue to work with First Great Western to improve performance.”

Operators can vary fares from a cut of 0.8 per cent up to a 9.2 per cent increase – as long as the average is 4.2 per cent.

Chiltern Railways has increased Banbury and Bicester season tickets by 9.2 per cent, a rise of £5,476 to £5,976 for Banbury.

Cherwell Rail Users Group chairman Chris Bates said: “Commuters are going to be rightly furious.

“I can foresee protests ahead, especially since their service from Banbury is about to get worse.”

A new timetable introduced on December 9 has been criticised for replacing two non-stop morning services from Banbury with two that stop at Bicester North.

Chiltern scored 84.7 per cent for the one minute punctuality measure and 94.4 per cent for the five minute measure for April to November. It recorded 95.2 per cent for the five minute measure in 2008/09 and 95.2, 94 and 93 per cent in subsequent years.

Commercial director Thomas Ableman said: “We understand that fare increases are hard. To ensure long term viability of the franchise requires us to examine carefully our pricing against those of similar commuter markets.”

It said the Bicester increase was directly linked to its Evergreen 3 project to start running trains on a new line from Oxford to London from 2015.

Comments (7)

10:18am Wed 2 Jan 13

Sebastian Hester says...

Those prices are ridiculous! I recently saw a poster at a bus stop with an offer for a season ticket on the X90 coach to London. The price that Oxford Bus Company is offering is £1000! That’s over £3500 cheaper!! If I used the train to commute to London every day, I would seriously consider using the coach as an alternative. Not only would you save £3500 a year, you would also get a seat!!
Those prices are ridiculous! I recently saw a poster at a bus stop with an offer for a season ticket on the X90 coach to London. The price that Oxford Bus Company is offering is £1000! That’s over £3500 cheaper!! If I used the train to commute to London every day, I would seriously consider using the coach as an alternative. Not only would you save £3500 a year, you would also get a seat!! Sebastian Hester

1:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Andrew:Oxford says...

Sebastian Hester wrote:
Those prices are ridiculous! I recently saw a poster at a bus stop with an offer for a season ticket on the X90 coach to London. The price that Oxford Bus Company is offering is £1000! That’s over £3500 cheaper!! If I used the train to commute to London every day, I would seriously consider using the coach as an alternative. Not only would you save £3500 a year, you would also get a seat!!
For East Oxford commuters, it's possible to board the 17.18 from Marylebone, arrive in Haddenham at 17.55 - and be passing Thornhill in the car by 18.10.

You'd be lucky to reach Hillingdon by 18.10 on the coach if you boarded at Marble Arch at 17.00 during the evening peak.

It all depends if you value the money in your pocket more than time with your family.
[quote][p][bold]Sebastian Hester[/bold] wrote: Those prices are ridiculous! I recently saw a poster at a bus stop with an offer for a season ticket on the X90 coach to London. The price that Oxford Bus Company is offering is £1000! That’s over £3500 cheaper!! If I used the train to commute to London every day, I would seriously consider using the coach as an alternative. Not only would you save £3500 a year, you would also get a seat!![/p][/quote]For East Oxford commuters, it's possible to board the 17.18 from Marylebone, arrive in Haddenham at 17.55 - and be passing Thornhill in the car by 18.10. You'd be lucky to reach Hillingdon by 18.10 on the coach if you boarded at Marble Arch at 17.00 during the evening peak. It all depends if you value the money in your pocket more than time with your family. Andrew:Oxford

3:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Sebastian Hester says...

Andrew:Oxford wrote:
Sebastian Hester wrote: Those prices are ridiculous! I recently saw a poster at a bus stop with an offer for a season ticket on the X90 coach to London. The price that Oxford Bus Company is offering is £1000! That’s over £3500 cheaper!! If I used the train to commute to London every day, I would seriously consider using the coach as an alternative. Not only would you save £3500 a year, you would also get a seat!!
For East Oxford commuters, it's possible to board the 17.18 from Marylebone, arrive in Haddenham at 17.55 - and be passing Thornhill in the car by 18.10. You'd be lucky to reach Hillingdon by 18.10 on the coach if you boarded at Marble Arch at 17.00 during the evening peak. It all depends if you value the money in your pocket more than time with your family.
This is true however the reason you go to work is to support your family. If you were given the opportunity of a £3500 pay rise at work but the condition attached was that you had to work around for an extra 30 minutes, would you agree to it?
It works out that for the extra time you would be on the coach you would save around £14 for each journey you take that’s £28 a day for a typical 5 day week!! If it is time that you value with them, you should get a job closer to home and spend more time with them. In my eyes this makes perfect sense but then again everyone has different circumstances and time is more precious to some than others.
[quote][p][bold]Andrew:Oxford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sebastian Hester[/bold] wrote: Those prices are ridiculous! I recently saw a poster at a bus stop with an offer for a season ticket on the X90 coach to London. The price that Oxford Bus Company is offering is £1000! That’s over £3500 cheaper!! If I used the train to commute to London every day, I would seriously consider using the coach as an alternative. Not only would you save £3500 a year, you would also get a seat!![/p][/quote]For East Oxford commuters, it's possible to board the 17.18 from Marylebone, arrive in Haddenham at 17.55 - and be passing Thornhill in the car by 18.10. You'd be lucky to reach Hillingdon by 18.10 on the coach if you boarded at Marble Arch at 17.00 during the evening peak. It all depends if you value the money in your pocket more than time with your family.[/p][/quote]This is true however the reason you go to work is to support your family. If you were given the opportunity of a £3500 pay rise at work but the condition attached was that you had to work around for an extra 30 minutes, would you agree to it? It works out that for the extra time you would be on the coach you would save around £14 for each journey you take that’s £28 a day for a typical 5 day week!! If it is time that you value with them, you should get a job closer to home and spend more time with them. In my eyes this makes perfect sense but then again everyone has different circumstances and time is more precious to some than others. Sebastian Hester

4:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

carfax cabby ox1 says...

There was a representative from some organisation (i forgot which) on The Jeremy Vine show this morning who was seriously advocating that motorists should be taxed to the hilt and the money given to train companies so that they could give cheaper tickets to commuters going to £100k+ jobs in The City. How about stopping the £million+ bonuses that the train company directors get as a bonus for proving an awful service, and CUT taxpayers contributions to the above. Or better still re-nationalise the whole network and either massively reduce ticket prices, or take the profits into central funds. At the moment it really IS a gravy train for some.
There was a representative from some organisation (i forgot which) on The Jeremy Vine show this morning who was seriously advocating that motorists should be taxed to the hilt and the money given to train companies so that they could give cheaper tickets to commuters going to £100k+ jobs in The City. How about stopping the £million+ bonuses that the train company directors get as a bonus for proving an awful service, and CUT taxpayers contributions to the above. Or better still re-nationalise the whole network and either massively reduce ticket prices, or take the profits into central funds. At the moment it really IS a gravy train for some. carfax cabby ox1

12:05pm Thu 3 Jan 13

WitneyGreen says...

Yes, the bus does take longer due to the traffic in and out of London. But not only does it cost £3500 less per year, it's also a guaranteed seat and free (usually quite fast) WiFi. People can work on the bus as they commute, meaning less time in the office and less risk of needing to work at home in the evenings/weekends.
Yes, the bus does take longer due to the traffic in and out of London. But not only does it cost £3500 less per year, it's also a guaranteed seat and free (usually quite fast) WiFi. People can work on the bus as they commute, meaning less time in the office and less risk of needing to work at home in the evenings/weekends. WitneyGreen

6:34pm Thu 3 Jan 13

carfax cabby ox1 says...

WitneyGreen wrote:
Yes, the bus does take longer due to the traffic in and out of London. But not only does it cost £3500 less per year, it's also a guaranteed seat and free (usually quite fast) WiFi. People can work on the bus as they commute, meaning less time in the office and less risk of needing to work at home in the evenings/weekends.
How does one work in a cramped seat on a crowded bus on the way to London?
The only way is in a first class on a comfortable train.
[quote][p][bold]WitneyGreen[/bold] wrote: Yes, the bus does take longer due to the traffic in and out of London. But not only does it cost £3500 less per year, it's also a guaranteed seat and free (usually quite fast) WiFi. People can work on the bus as they commute, meaning less time in the office and less risk of needing to work at home in the evenings/weekends.[/p][/quote]How does one work in a cramped seat on a crowded bus on the way to London? The only way is in a first class on a comfortable train. carfax cabby ox1

8:47am Fri 4 Jan 13

Sebastian Hester says...

carfax cabby ox1 wrote:
WitneyGreen wrote: Yes, the bus does take longer due to the traffic in and out of London. But not only does it cost £3500 less per year, it's also a guaranteed seat and free (usually quite fast) WiFi. People can work on the bus as they commute, meaning less time in the office and less risk of needing to work at home in the evenings/weekends.
How does one work in a cramped seat on a crowded bus on the way to London? The only way is in a first class on a comfortable train.
Have you been on the X90 coach to London recently carfax cabby? They have comfortable seats with LOADS of extra legroom so you do not feel penned in for this precise reason!
[quote][p][bold]carfax cabby ox1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WitneyGreen[/bold] wrote: Yes, the bus does take longer due to the traffic in and out of London. But not only does it cost £3500 less per year, it's also a guaranteed seat and free (usually quite fast) WiFi. People can work on the bus as they commute, meaning less time in the office and less risk of needing to work at home in the evenings/weekends.[/p][/quote]How does one work in a cramped seat on a crowded bus on the way to London? The only way is in a first class on a comfortable train.[/p][/quote]Have you been on the X90 coach to London recently carfax cabby? They have comfortable seats with LOADS of extra legroom so you do not feel penned in for this precise reason! Sebastian Hester

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